Showing posts with label Pope Benedict XVI. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Pope Benedict XVI. Show all posts

Sunday, September 24, 2006

From Thursday's AP via Yahoo
Benedict "should be removed from his position immediately for encouraging war and fanning hostility between various faiths" and "making insulting remarks" against Islam, said a joint statement issued by the clerics and scholars at the end of their one-day convention.
Encouraging war.
Fanning hostilities between faiths
Making insulting remarks.

Cool, let's get a list of Imams who spew about Israel and see if we can work out a deal!

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Thursday, September 21, 2006

Hat tip: Best of the Web.

So where did the Moslem extremists get the idea to demand that the Pope convert?
Where all the best ideas come from, of course--blogs.
"Under Sharia law, anyone who even indirectly implies that Islam is anything less than 'peachy keen' can only be forgiven once they've been decapitated, disemboweled, and then trampled to death by a herd of unwashed goats. The Pope is probably too much of a bigot to accept such an olive branch, but there is an alternative. He could convert to Islam."--BlameBush.typepad.com, Sept. 17
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Wednesday, September 20, 2006

From the Pope at his General Audience speaking about his remarks made at the University of Regensburg:
I hope that on different occasions during my visit – for instance, in Munich when I stressed how important it is to respect that which is sacred to others – my profound respect for the great religions, and in particular for the Moslems, who "adore the one God" and with whom we are engaged in "defending and promoting together, for all men, social justice, moral values, peace and freedom" (Nostra Aetate, 3) was clearly apparent.
So now Islam is a Religion of Peace?
Only so long as "all men" does not refer to Dhimmis.

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Acording to Gypsy Scholar, a faulty translation of Pope Benedict's German address, done by the Vatican itself, may have helped create the Moslem backlash.

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Tuesday, September 19, 2006

Is there a difference between the media reaction to the Danish cartoon controversy and Islamist reaction to Pope Benedict?

According to Spiegel:
But the attacks against the pope are especially grotesque. The severe criticism -- often coupled with threats of violence -- directed at the speech held last Tuesday by Benedict XVI is not just an attack on the head of the Catholic Church. The malicious twisting of the pope's words and the absurd allegations made by representatives of Islam represent a frontal attack on open religious and philosophical dialogue.
Maybe somehow people could justify the reaction to the cartoons.
But this time around, it's getting more and more obvious that the reaction is way over the top.

Maybe people are ready to go to the next level after fear--anger.

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Via Yahoo:
Iraq's parliament also rejected Benedict's explanation of his remarks, saying it was insufficiently clear. The parliament "demands the pope take practical steps to restore respect to the Islamic world and its religion, and a clear-cut apology for what he said," lawmakers said in a statement read at a press conference.
OK, but if the Moslems themselvses cannot restore Islam's lost respect, how do they expect the Pope to?

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Monday, September 18, 2006

So who is this Manuel II that Pope Benedict quoted?
Where was he coming from when he said:
"Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."
Here is a rundown by Peter Robinson:
Manuel II Paleologus reigned as emperor of Byzantium from 1391, the year in which he is believed to have composed the text from which the Pope quoted last week, until his death in 1425. A brief overview of his experience of Islam:

1390: Manuel is sent as a hostage to the court of Sultan Bayezid I. As his writings demonstrate, he reads widely in Muslim texts and engages in repeated debates with Muslim scholars. He is also forced to participate in an attack on his own people, the siege of Philadelphia, which eliminated the last Byzantine settlement in Anatolia.

1394-1402: The Ottomans besiege Constantinople. For some five years, Manuel directs the defense of the city in person. Then he entrusts Constantinople to his nephew and embarks on a tour of the West, seeking assistance.

1422: The Ottomans attack Manuel in Constantinople once again.

By the time of his death in 1425, Manuel had spent virtually his entire adult life in the struggle against an armed and expansionist Islam—and in 1453, just over a quarter of a century later, the Ottomans would finally conquer the empire he had defended.

The point? One may certainly argue that Islam had no monopoly on fourteenth and fifteenth century violence—Manuel himself had to resist several attempts by members of his own family to deny him the throne. What one may not, argue, I think, is that Manuel lacked the authority or knowledge to speak about Islam. When he described efforts “to spread by the sword the faith [the Prophet] preached,” he wasn't mouthing some sort of ignorant medieval prejudice. He knew exactly what he was talking about.
Now where do the Imams get the authority to speak about Christianity or Judaism?

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Shiloh's Musings urges the Pope: Don't Fire the Speech Writers!

Good advice.

The Pope's problems started with a 14th-Century Christian emperor.

I wonder what he did with his speech writers.

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The Pope is having a bad week.
First he gives an address that Moslems take offense at.
Then a general apology is issued--but the Moslems want more.
Then the Pope issues a public apology--but he does not seem to have gone far enough.

Some Muslims want to give the Pope helpful advice:
An influential Iranian cleric, Ahmad Khatami, warned that if the Pope did not apologise, the "outcry will continue until he fully regrets his remarks". He suggested "the Pope should fall on his knees in front of a senior Muslim cleric and try to understand Islam".
But while trying to appease the Moslems, the Pope:
...appeared to risk causing fresh controversy during his speech yesterday when he cited a passage from St Paul that risked being interpreted as hostile - not by Muslims, but by Jews. It described the crucifixion of Jesus as a "scandal for the Jews".
When this incident first started, some saw it as a major representative of the West taking a stand.

Now it merely looks like another representative of the West in disarray.

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In today's Best of the Web, James Taranto takes a poke at Dilbert creator Scott Adams who writes in his blog about the Moslem reaction to Pope Benedict's comments. Adams asks:
This is funny on so many levels that I hardly know where to start. But let me begin by saying WHAT THE HELL ARE CHURCHES DOING IN THE WEST BANK?????????
Taranto parries:
Hmm, churches in the place of Jesus' birth. Now that is a puzzlement.
Adams' error is sad on so many levels it is hard to know where to start--especially since he is obviously not alone.

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Sunday, September 17, 2006

Elder of Ziyon notes the Moslem response to Pope Benedict XVI's address, of which one sentence was found to be offensive:
So far, since Friday, there have been ten different attacks against six churches in the Palestinian Arab territories
The last line of the Pope's address was about the need for dialogue.

Guess they didn't bother to finish reading the whole thing.

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Boker Tov doesn't think the Pope apologized for his comments last week.

Apparently the Moslems don't either.

The last time we had a contest of wills like this--over the Danish cartoons--the West caved in a big way.

This time around--will things be any different?

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AbbaGav on The "Death to the Pope for Calling Us Violent" Protests:
But it's not just the Martyrs Brigade exploding (figuratively) in spontaneous, peaceful-ish demonstrations of their anger at the Pope. Even the moderate Islamist organization Hamas -- they're moderates now, right? -- even they're violently peeved with the Pope about this. Peeved enough to shout peaceful, non-violent slogans proclaiming Islam's distaste for any violence perpetrated in its name -- or at least distaste for having such violence criticized
Glad to hear that Christian-Moslem dialogue thing is working for well for them.

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Quote of the Week? Reuters on the Muslim Brotherhood's dissatisfaction with the Popes apology:
The Muslim Brotherhood is a political Islamist group founded in Egypt which has inspired movements across the Arab world.
And what kind of movements have the Moslem Brotherhood inspired?
As stated on its charter and its website, the Muslim Brotherhood seeks to install an Islamic totalitarian empire and a worldwide Caliphate, through stages designed to Islamize targeted nations by whatever means available. Although the Brotherhood itself renounced violence in the 1970s, many of its branches continue to practice violence through terrorism and assassination.
Ah, those kinds of movements.

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